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Tsaroth
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 Posted - 06/19/2010 : 02:24:09
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considering a stage II procharger
needs 38# injectors which I already have (bought for the TA but never had a chance to install before the wreck) and some computer tuning but other than that, a fully stock C5 Z06 is supposed to put over 500 to the wheels and get close to 10s in the 1/4
Just gotta save up 7 grand...
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Turbo
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Posted - 06/19/2010 : 15:26:31
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Pay off your debts, Save up the 7 grand and Don't do it. Times are tough. Keep it to feed you or your family if you can't work. Look around people are out of work, defaulting on home loans, getting their cars repossessed.
You own (assuming its not a car loan) a pretty decent car that will out perform 97% of anything you pass on the highway. That's 7 Grand down the toilet that you can never fully recoup.
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Tsaroth
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Posted - 06/19/2010 : 16:21:28
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but for a meager 7 grand I could up that to 100% of the cars I'd pass on the highway
people are out of work, people are defaulting on their home loans, people are getting their cars repossessed... but I'm not. Why should I hoard my money and pass on stuff I enjoy just because other people are going broke? I get what you're saying but being afraid of spending money because the economy is "bad" just makes the economy worse. When people aren't buying things no one is getting paid and because no one is getting paid no one is buying anything, repeat.
So there you have it. It would be irresponsible of me NOT to buy the supercharger. I'm counting your vote as a yes  |
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LoneStar
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Posted - 06/22/2010 : 03:46:04
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i vote kenne bell  |
2005 Torrid Red GTO: LoneStar ported intake and tb, Corsa Sport Catback, MSD 8.5mm Superconductors, hp tuners tuned by Waltred.
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BoobDawg
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 09:52:51
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I have a magnuson for sale? Procharger will beat it up top, but there's nothing like instant tq.
I say keep your eyes peeled for a used one on the cheap. |
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TWS
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 22:09:13
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I'll give Lone Star that benefit of the doubt and assume his response was a joke.
What is a "Stage II Procharger"? Is that a kit that a certain shop calls "Stage II"?
Buy Boob's Magnusson even if it won't fit on your car. He will come over and make it fit.
(Boob, that'll be a 5% commission for shilling your product) |
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Tsaroth
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Posted - 07/07/2010 : 12:51:04
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The "Stage II" is actually what procharger calls the kit. it's a P1SC head unit with specialized hardware specific to the C5 vette
"Based on the design of the C6 HO Intercooled system and ProCharger C5 race kit, the new Stage II Intercooled ProCharger system substantially raises the bar for C5 performance. The rugged new bracket design shows more of the supercharger for a better appearance, produces the industry’s greatest belt wrap, and allows belt replacement without removing the supercharger. A larger, highly effective 4.5” twin highflow intercooler system with 3” tubing is standard, as is a new, higher flowing air inlet system. And unlike others, not only is all the hardware of OEM quality, a new radiator cradle is supplied to avoid cutting into the stock vehicle. Furthermore, an industry exclusive 3 year warranty is available up to 9 psi. "
I actually would be interested in the supercharger you have Boob, It's the one that was on the Caddy right? Give me more info on it and if the price is right I might just pick that up from you at some point |
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TWS
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Posted - 07/07/2010 : 20:45:00
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Ah, I guess I would know that if I ever bothered to look at their C5 product line.
Mostly guys just say "P1 kit" or "D1 kit" etc. |
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BoobDawg
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Posted - 07/08/2010 : 08:45:51
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| Brian, the roots style that was on the caddy is an awesome supercharger, no doubt about it. When it was pushing a cam with some meth it would probably compare to a procharger. That being said, I think you'd really like the pull of the procharger up top. Got a few "tire kickers" for the blower currently. I'm asking in the ballpark of 4k. Reasonable offers won't be refused though. |
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Ryan
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Posted - 07/08/2010 : 17:42:35
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quote:
Originally posted by BoobDawg
Brian, the roots style that was on the caddy is an awesome supercharger, no doubt about it. When it was pushing a cam with some meth it would probably compare to a procharger. That being said, I think you'd really like the pull of the procharger up top. Got a few "tire kickers" for the blower currently. I'm asking in the ballpark of 4k. Reasonable offers won't be refused though.
That blower was awesome for a heavy car like the V. I'd like to take it off your hands but it's not the best idea for me right now...  |
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LoneStar
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 01:10:19
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Originally posted by TWS
I'll give Lone Star that benefit of the doubt and assume his response was a joke.
why would putting a kenne bell on the vette be a joke? twin screw is the best PD blower design for power and IAT.
a maggie would be a good option too, the mp112 can make ~550whp on a ls1 before it is way out of its efficency range. a 112HH or a 122/122HH would make more power but you wouldnt really be getting over 650whp with them
the new TVS line from magnuson is supposed to be about 33% more efficent with its rotor design, so IAT is a lot lower after a drag pass etc. the tvs1900 is capable of 700whp and the tvs2300 is capable of around 900whp, granted you can keep belt slip under control
i guess the real question here is will you plan on going faster later on, and would you like to keep the stock hood.
if you are willing to put a cowl on there, id say get a 4L KB on there, stroke the motor to a 402
here is what 20psi with a 4l Whipple and a stroked-bored 408 LS1 sounds like :)
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2005 Torrid Red GTO: LoneStar ported intake and tb, Corsa Sport Catback, MSD 8.5mm Superconductors, hp tuners tuned by Waltred.
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LoneStar
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 01:19:14
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and the GTO with the 408 in there, he had a HTV2300 (basically a TVS2300) and with no meth, and pump gas he put down 750/780 with 17psi and the belt slipping.... so a forged motor and more cubes along with your supercharger is the way to go :)
you need to be able to hit low 9s and still be a daily driver  |
2005 Torrid Red GTO: LoneStar ported intake and tb, Corsa Sport Catback, MSD 8.5mm Superconductors, hp tuners tuned by Waltred.
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BoobDawg
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 10:40:37
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Kenne Bell's customer support for the lsx community has been absolute shat. So far as I know over the last 3-4 years there are only a handful of vettes that go with them, and they have had problems. Then the company doesn't back it up, so it's a cluster#$@%.
I hear the TVS2300s are awesome. I know of a V with a 454 and one of those pushing 1k whp.
I just think, dollar for dollar, on the C5 platform, your money is better spent on a procharger kit and headers. This will likely give you enough performance for a while, providing you don't blow the motor.  |
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Tsaroth
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 11:59:47
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I don't really want the Z06 to be a drag racer so 1k whp would be way too much. 500 at the wheels would be more than enough for what I want. I am thinking eventually I'll get another car and build that just for racing.
As far as a supercharger on the vette, if I'm buying new I'll go with the procharger, but I have plenty of time to decide since I'm not made of thousand dollar bills... |
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LoneStar
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Posted - 07/26/2010 : 01:30:06
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if youre only looking to make 500whp, a MP112 maggie would easily get you there.... you can pick them up for really cheap since the TVS line came out.
personally, id find one used and send it into magnuson for new bearings and itll be like a brand new blower. ive seen them go for $2-3k |
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JoePapa
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Posted - 07/29/2010 : 09:35:57
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quote:
Originally posted by BoobDawg
Kenne Bell's customer support for the lsx community has been absolute shat. So far as I know over the last 3-4 years there are only a handful of vettes that go with them, and they have had problems. Then the company doesn't back it up, so it's a cluster#$@%.
True Dat! I know of someone else that made the mistake using a Kenne Bell product. Just ask Yancy - KB sucked. I'd rather not use a blower than run a KB blower.
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